Does Mother Mary represent the New Eve ?
It's all symbolic
Through St. Paul, Holy Scripture tells us that Christ is the New Adam, and where all died in Adam, all may be made alive in Christ. The comparison between Adam and Christ revealed a parallel in salvation history between the story of humanity’s first parents and the story of humanity’s salvation. Within this parallel, the Virgin Mary plays a role that rightfully entitles her the New Eve.
If Eve was a life container and was the mother of all living, she was Adam man's women ... not just one woman. Wouldn't Mary now be the virgin who mothers all living? Mary replaced Eve because Eve brought death to the world through her sexual sins and now Mary would bring life.
Adam to Christ, Eve to Mary, Fall to Salvation, and Tree to Cross.
The following list explores the role of Eve in the Fall to the role of Mother Mary - the New Eve - in the Salvation of the World.
Eve Gives Birth ----> Sin & Death
New Eve Gives Birth ----> Grace & Salvation
Eve + Adam = The Fall
New Eve + New Adam = Salvation
Eve = Mother of All the Living
New Eve = Mother of All Who live
The Recreation of the world, the recapitulation of mankind, also did not happen immediately, but rather happened when the New Eve, the New Adam, and the Tree – the Cross – were together. Though all the disciples eventually abandoned Christ, the New Eve did not. She remained at his side as he offered forgiveness and satisfaction for humanity. Christ, being the New Adam, became the head of a new humanity of a redeemed and recreated world.
If Eve represented woman as a whole ...maybe Mary does too ?
Maybe that's where the idea of the Jews today get the lineage through the MOTHER -
The Mother must be from EVE/MARY, to be part of the family of GOD
Mary Untied the Knot of Eve’s Disobedience:
The Early Church Father and Bishop of Lyon, France, Irenaeus (d. 202) wrote the following famous phrase:
The knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary.
The knot of which the virgin Eve tied by her unbelief, the Virgin Mary opened by her belief.
WISDOM is FEMALE
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H998
Female feelings are more interior, more spiritual, more perceptive.
The function of this is to give men the motivation, opportunity, and spiritual technology to turn inward. By turning inward through the wife, we men become regenerate husbands -- the old self is inhibited and disarmed, made harmless and inoperative.
The Virgin Mary is the Advocate of the Virgin Eve:
It was Bishop Irenaeus who more fully developed St. Paul’s concept of recapitulation. He goes on to say:
If the former [Eve] disobeyed God, the latter [Mary] was persuaded to obey God, so that the Virgin Mary became the advocate of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so it is rescued by a virgin.
An Edifice of Death, An Edifice of Believing:
Further exploring the Early Church, the western thinker of North Africa, Tertullian (c. 160) states:
For it was while Eve was yet a virgin that the ensnaring word had crept into her ear which was to build the edifice of death. Into a virgin’s soul, in like manner, must be introduced that Word of God which was to raise the fabric of life; so that what had been reduced to ruin by this sex might be the selfsame sex be recovered to salvation. As Eve believed the serpent, so Mary believed the angel. The delinquency which the one occasioned by believing, the other effaced by believing.
ADAM AND JESUS
They are both Adam,' wrote Paul:
The first man Adam became a living being. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1 Cor. 15.45
And he went on, The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 15.47
Identical Positions: "First and Last"
The first and last Adam: The first Adam (Adam) became a living being; the last Adam (Jesus), a life-giving spirit.
Jesus: "I am the First and the Last. Rev. 1:17
God: "I am the First and I am the Last." Isaiah 48:12
The Bible refers to Jesus as "the First of God's creation" (human-divine being) and "the Last of God's creation" human-divine being.
The Son of God's "first incarnation" was as Adam.
The Son of God's "last incarnation" was as Jesus.
Identical Origins: "Beginning and End"
Adam: "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female. Mark 10:6
Jesus: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 21:6
Identical Karma: Required to Pay for Original Sin
Sowing and Reaping is same thing as Karma
The connection between Jesus and Adam is fundamental to Christian doctrine. Their connection is the foundation that holds together the entire Christian system of election, redemption, atonement, justification, regeneration and sanctification. The idea of Jesus "paying the penalty" for the transgressions of others makes no sense without his connection to Adam's mission of bringing in higher knowledge and its consequences. Without Adam as a previous incarnation as Jesus, the gospel message is absurd. ??
Adam brought divine knowledge of good and evil into the world which resulted in both positive and negative consequences. Jesus came to reverse the negative consequences brought on by Adam by paying his karmic debt. This becomes apparent when we read how the Bible draws parallels between Adam and Christ:
(1) The obedience of Jesus reversed the disobedience of Adam:
"For just as through the disobedience of the one man [Adam] the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man [Jesus] the many will be made righteous.
Rom. 5:12-21
It's all symbolic
Through St. Paul, Holy Scripture tells us that Christ is the New Adam, and where all died in Adam, all may be made alive in Christ. The comparison between Adam and Christ revealed a parallel in salvation history between the story of humanity’s first parents and the story of humanity’s salvation. Within this parallel, the Virgin Mary plays a role that rightfully entitles her the New Eve.
If Eve was a life container and was the mother of all living, she was Adam man's women ... not just one woman. Wouldn't Mary now be the virgin who mothers all living? Mary replaced Eve because Eve brought death to the world through her sexual sins and now Mary would bring life.
Adam to Christ, Eve to Mary, Fall to Salvation, and Tree to Cross.
The following list explores the role of Eve in the Fall to the role of Mother Mary - the New Eve - in the Salvation of the World.
Eve Gives Birth ----> Sin & Death
New Eve Gives Birth ----> Grace & Salvation
Eve + Adam = The Fall
New Eve + New Adam = Salvation
Eve = Mother of All the Living
New Eve = Mother of All Who live
The Recreation of the world, the recapitulation of mankind, also did not happen immediately, but rather happened when the New Eve, the New Adam, and the Tree – the Cross – were together. Though all the disciples eventually abandoned Christ, the New Eve did not. She remained at his side as he offered forgiveness and satisfaction for humanity. Christ, being the New Adam, became the head of a new humanity of a redeemed and recreated world.
If Eve represented woman as a whole ...maybe Mary does too ?
Maybe that's where the idea of the Jews today get the lineage through the MOTHER -
The Mother must be from EVE/MARY, to be part of the family of GOD
Mary Untied the Knot of Eve’s Disobedience:
The Early Church Father and Bishop of Lyon, France, Irenaeus (d. 202) wrote the following famous phrase:
The knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary.
The knot of which the virgin Eve tied by her unbelief, the Virgin Mary opened by her belief.
WISDOM is FEMALE
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H998
Female feelings are more interior, more spiritual, more perceptive.
The function of this is to give men the motivation, opportunity, and spiritual technology to turn inward. By turning inward through the wife, we men become regenerate husbands -- the old self is inhibited and disarmed, made harmless and inoperative.
The Virgin Mary is the Advocate of the Virgin Eve:
It was Bishop Irenaeus who more fully developed St. Paul’s concept of recapitulation. He goes on to say:
If the former [Eve] disobeyed God, the latter [Mary] was persuaded to obey God, so that the Virgin Mary became the advocate of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so it is rescued by a virgin.
An Edifice of Death, An Edifice of Believing:
Further exploring the Early Church, the western thinker of North Africa, Tertullian (c. 160) states:
For it was while Eve was yet a virgin that the ensnaring word had crept into her ear which was to build the edifice of death. Into a virgin’s soul, in like manner, must be introduced that Word of God which was to raise the fabric of life; so that what had been reduced to ruin by this sex might be the selfsame sex be recovered to salvation. As Eve believed the serpent, so Mary believed the angel. The delinquency which the one occasioned by believing, the other effaced by believing.
ADAM AND JESUS
They are both Adam,' wrote Paul:
The first man Adam became a living being. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1 Cor. 15.45
And he went on, The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 15.47
Identical Positions: "First and Last"
The first and last Adam: The first Adam (Adam) became a living being; the last Adam (Jesus), a life-giving spirit.
Jesus: "I am the First and the Last. Rev. 1:17
God: "I am the First and I am the Last." Isaiah 48:12
The Bible refers to Jesus as "the First of God's creation" (human-divine being) and "the Last of God's creation" human-divine being.
The Son of God's "first incarnation" was as Adam.
The Son of God's "last incarnation" was as Jesus.
Identical Origins: "Beginning and End"
Adam: "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female. Mark 10:6
Jesus: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 21:6
Identical Karma: Required to Pay for Original Sin
Sowing and Reaping is same thing as Karma
The connection between Jesus and Adam is fundamental to Christian doctrine. Their connection is the foundation that holds together the entire Christian system of election, redemption, atonement, justification, regeneration and sanctification. The idea of Jesus "paying the penalty" for the transgressions of others makes no sense without his connection to Adam's mission of bringing in higher knowledge and its consequences. Without Adam as a previous incarnation as Jesus, the gospel message is absurd. ??
Adam brought divine knowledge of good and evil into the world which resulted in both positive and negative consequences. Jesus came to reverse the negative consequences brought on by Adam by paying his karmic debt. This becomes apparent when we read how the Bible draws parallels between Adam and Christ:
(1) The obedience of Jesus reversed the disobedience of Adam:
"For just as through the disobedience of the one man [Adam] the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man [Jesus] the many will be made righteous.
Rom. 5:12-21
Reincarnation in the bible:
When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples,
"Who do people say the Son of Man is?
Matt 16:14
His disciples replied:
"Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
Seems here the disciples thought Jesus was a prophet of old ..a reincarnated one ?
REINCARNATE:
— vb 1. to cause to undergo reincarnation; be born again
— adj 2. born again in a new body
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reincarnate?s=t
Born Again ? that sure sounds familiar
Maybe Adam was reincarnated over and over until reaching the highest position "The Christ" The Anointed One,
"The King of WISDOM" ?
Didn't Jesus show us how it is possible to be perfect in flesh ?
Jesus glorified his HUMAN by leaving the worldly desires and focusing on the God within
INCARNATE:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incarnate
incarnate
— adj 1. possessing bodily form, esp the human form: a devil incarnate 2. personified or typified: stupidity incarnate 3. (esp of plant parts) flesh-coloured or pink
— vb 4. to give a bodily or concrete form to 5. to be representative or typical of [C14: from Late Latin incarnāre to make flesh, from Latin in- ² + carō flesh]
When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples,
"Who do people say the Son of Man is?
Matt 16:14
His disciples replied:
"Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
Seems here the disciples thought Jesus was a prophet of old ..a reincarnated one ?
REINCARNATE:
— vb 1. to cause to undergo reincarnation; be born again
— adj 2. born again in a new body
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reincarnate?s=t
Born Again ? that sure sounds familiar
Maybe Adam was reincarnated over and over until reaching the highest position "The Christ" The Anointed One,
"The King of WISDOM" ?
Didn't Jesus show us how it is possible to be perfect in flesh ?
Jesus glorified his HUMAN by leaving the worldly desires and focusing on the God within
INCARNATE:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incarnate
incarnate
— adj 1. possessing bodily form, esp the human form: a devil incarnate 2. personified or typified: stupidity incarnate 3. (esp of plant parts) flesh-coloured or pink
— vb 4. to give a bodily or concrete form to 5. to be representative or typical of [C14: from Late Latin incarnāre to make flesh, from Latin in- ² + carō flesh]
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus states that the Pharisees, the founders of rabbinic Judaism for whom Paul once belonged, believed in reincarnation. He writes that the Pharisees believed that the souls of bad men are punished after death but that the souls of good men are "removed into other bodies" and they will "have power to revive and live again." The Sadducees, the other prominent Jewish sect in Palestine, did not emphasize life after death and according to the Bible "say there is no resurrection" Mat 22:23. From what we have just discussed, it is clear that what Matthew really states is that the Sadducees "say there is no reincarnation".
The following are some the secret teachings of Jesus from the Gnostic gospels that affirm reincarnation, revealing the secret knowledge:
"Watch and pray that you may not be born in the flesh, but that you may leave the bitter bondage of this life." Book of Thomas the Contender
"When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will bear!" Gospel of Thomas
In the Book of Thomas the Contender, Jesus tells the disciple Thomas that after death those who were once believers but have remained attached to things of "transitory beauty" will be consumed "in their concern about life" and will be "brought back to the visible realm".
In the Secret Book of John,
reincarnation is placed at the heart of its discussion of the salvation of souls.
The book was written by 185 AD at the latest.
Here is the Secret Book of John's perspective on reincarnation:
All people have drunk the water of forgetfulness and exist in a state of ignorance. Some are able to overcome ignorance through the Spirit of life that descends upon them. These souls "will be saved and will become perfect," that is, escape the round of rebirth. John asks Jesus what will happen to those who do not attain salvation. They are hurled down "into forgetfulness" and thrown into "prison", the Gnostic code word for new body. The only way for these souls to escape, says Jesus, is to emerge from forgetfulness and acquire knowledge. A soul in this situation can do so by finding a teacher or savior who has the strength to lead her home. "This soul needs to follow another soul in whom the Spirit of life dwells, because she is saved through the Spirit. Then she will never be thrust into flesh again." Secret Book of John
Another Gnostic text, Pistis Sophia, outlines an elaborate system of reward and punishment that includes reincarnation. The text explains differences in fate as the effects of past-life actions. A "man who curses" is given a body that will be continually "troubled in heart". A "man who slanders" receives a body that will be "oppressed". A thief receives a "lame, crooked and blind body". A "proud" and "scornful" man receives "a lame and ugly body" that "everyone continually despises." Thus earth, as well as hell, becomes the place of punishment.
According to Pistis Sophia, some souls do experience hell as a shadowy place of torture where they go after death. But after passing through this hell, the souls return for further experiences on earth. Only a few extremely wicked souls are not allowed to reincarnate. These are cast into "outer darkness" until the time when they are destined to be "destroyed and dissolved".
The following are some the secret teachings of Jesus from the Gnostic gospels that affirm reincarnation, revealing the secret knowledge:
"Watch and pray that you may not be born in the flesh, but that you may leave the bitter bondage of this life." Book of Thomas the Contender
"When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will bear!" Gospel of Thomas
In the Book of Thomas the Contender, Jesus tells the disciple Thomas that after death those who were once believers but have remained attached to things of "transitory beauty" will be consumed "in their concern about life" and will be "brought back to the visible realm".
In the Secret Book of John,
reincarnation is placed at the heart of its discussion of the salvation of souls.
The book was written by 185 AD at the latest.
Here is the Secret Book of John's perspective on reincarnation:
All people have drunk the water of forgetfulness and exist in a state of ignorance. Some are able to overcome ignorance through the Spirit of life that descends upon them. These souls "will be saved and will become perfect," that is, escape the round of rebirth. John asks Jesus what will happen to those who do not attain salvation. They are hurled down "into forgetfulness" and thrown into "prison", the Gnostic code word for new body. The only way for these souls to escape, says Jesus, is to emerge from forgetfulness and acquire knowledge. A soul in this situation can do so by finding a teacher or savior who has the strength to lead her home. "This soul needs to follow another soul in whom the Spirit of life dwells, because she is saved through the Spirit. Then she will never be thrust into flesh again." Secret Book of John
Another Gnostic text, Pistis Sophia, outlines an elaborate system of reward and punishment that includes reincarnation. The text explains differences in fate as the effects of past-life actions. A "man who curses" is given a body that will be continually "troubled in heart". A "man who slanders" receives a body that will be "oppressed". A thief receives a "lame, crooked and blind body". A "proud" and "scornful" man receives "a lame and ugly body" that "everyone continually despises." Thus earth, as well as hell, becomes the place of punishment.
According to Pistis Sophia, some souls do experience hell as a shadowy place of torture where they go after death. But after passing through this hell, the souls return for further experiences on earth. Only a few extremely wicked souls are not allowed to reincarnate. These are cast into "outer darkness" until the time when they are destined to be "destroyed and dissolved".